mitt romney will argue no, it is not. these are aberrations. that in lies debate in this debate. who is right? is this economy coming back or is it not? it could be a head fake. mitt romney wants to sell the head fake notion and barack obama that the trend is his friend. jenna: can we be geeky together for a moment here neil? >> absolutely. jenna: mitt romney said something about yesterday his tax plan that was new to us. i would like to play a little bit of that sound and we can talk about it, in case it comes up tonight it will be important for our viewers to know. take a listen. >> you could do something for instance, as an option everybody will get up to $17,000 deduction. use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction. you can fill that buckket, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. jenna: that $17,000 deduction bucket, this is kind of the first time we heard about this. >> right, right. jenna: the average family takes about $1,000 of deductions on their taxes. so looks like the average fami